Jun 07, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45
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#41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: North AL, USA
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witt78
If he wants to play Guild Wars that bad, let him go pay the $50 for another licence
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Well said. Slap him on the wrist and you'll have to keep slapping his wrist for every character he makes. Make him pay $50 and start over from scratch and he's a lot less likely to name his next character "Dew Mi Indy Ace" or something else equally "clever".
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46
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#42
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Profession: W/Mo
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I just want to know where he pulled the other definition of sodomy that all of us idiots are misunderstanding. What more evidence do you need of the word's definition? It is in the Biblical text as a big no-no, and I'm pretty sure it's listed in the Quran and Tora. I am not some religious zealot here, just trying to point out the word has had a single definition for several thousand years.
I do not find it funny at all. Captian Cornhole or Bunghole Bob, those are amusing. Personally, I hope they start taking a tougher stance on names. While I am hard to offend, I have come across too many names that could easily be deemed offensive.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46
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#43
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Underworld Spelunker
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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
nah still think its shady
its either a valid name at creation or not, 'offensive' isnt an evolving thing, its either offensive or its not
if it was worthy of getting deleted now, that means it was then...and it didnt, thats anets fault, oh well...move on
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wrong again
they cant cover every possibility of offensive name
if you were right then we wouldnt still be getting spam even with the best filters they can make
when they conquor spam then you can complain
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48
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#44
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lloyd.ab.ca
Guild: Lords of All
Profession: R/Mo
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Oy... is it really that hard to find / create a unique and normal name in this world?? I've got four!
Anakin Landrunner
Lord Tyr Anasazi
Vilandra Darkstar
Tess Stormcrow
Sure, I get my names from other places (Star Wars, Andromeda etc) but at least they are real names. As for 'Bawls' and 'God of ...' they totally deserve what they get. They know what they are doing when they input that name. Doesn't matter how much time and effort they put into it (Lvl 1 or Lvl 20), once discovered it should be no second chances and poof (deleted). My opinion, the devs shouldn't even be required to give a warning. What is wrong (and in this case utterly stupid) is still wrong. Simple.
Bottom line: Grow up.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50
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#45
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: San Diego, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
nah still think its shady
its either a valid name at creation or not, 'offensive' isnt an evolving thing, its either offensive or its not
if it was worthy of getting deleted now, that means it was then...and it didnt, thats anets fault, oh well...move on
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There wasn't a naming policy in beta.. probably because it was, erm... beta! You don't release EULA's etc until you go live.. there's more important things to deal with--they were spending all day every day reading /bug reports!
The "friend" should quit whining and learn the lesson. Have some respect for those around you.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51
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#46
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA.CT
Guild: PANiC AttAcK
Profession: E/Me
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I cant believe you people. How can a non vulgar word be offensive, just becuase it has sexualt implications? It should only offensive if it is vulgar, ie. vulgar language. What about a name with the word murder in it (John the Murderer)? Murder is pretty much illegal anywhere and the deffenition is pretty cut and dry, yet the word murder itself is not a vulgar word nor would it be banned. I guess killing is one thing but sexual acts are another in mant simple minds.
But truthfully, the fact that they find the name offensive isnt really the point (although its ironical considering all the female chars in this game are dress and look like they belong on the street corner offering sodomy for $5.00 [not to mention how some dance]), the real issue is allowing a customer to use the name, allowinging him to invest a good chunk of time, then make a overly conservetive (at best) and very subjective decision to ban the name without offering the customer any recourse to rename his char or recover his items/money/skills/etc.??? Any this community isnt outraged.... unbeliveable.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52
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#47
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hotlanta
Guild: Pink Fluffy Bunniez
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
nah still think its shady
its either a valid name at creation or not, 'offensive' isnt an evolving thing, its either offensive or its not
if it was worthy of getting deleted now, that means it was then...and it didnt, thats anets fault, oh well...move on
as for someone saying they need to review and they just got to him...hes a BWE char and they JUST got to him?! I should make an offensive character name (but only offensive in small countries) and see how long it takes them to sort it out....
so now we have the 'evolving name process' in which anet randomly determines whats offensive and not offensive this month
i hope you guys see what i'm getting at here
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Actually, you're right. "Offensive" isn't an evolving thing, per se. The name was offensive upon creation to somebody somewhere.
It just took time to find someone willing to say, "This is so repugnant to me that I am impelled to report it." And that is most certainly not A.net's fault.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52
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#48
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Draconic Rage Incarnate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Iowa
Guild: Alphahive
Profession: R/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I cant believe you people. How can a non vulgar word be offensive, just becuase it has sexualt implications? It should only offensive if it is vulgar, ie. vulgar language. What about a name with the word murder in it (John the Murderer)? Murder is pretty much illegal anywhere and the deffenition is pretty cut and dry, yet the word murder itself is not a vulgar word nor would it be banned. I guess killing is one thing but sexual acts are another in mant simple minds.
But truthfully, the fact that they find the name offensive isnt really the point (although its ironical considering all the female chars in this game are dress and look like they belong on the street corner offering sodomy for $5.00 [not to mention how some dance]), the real issue is allowing a customer to use the name, allowinging him to invest a good chunk of time, then make a overly conservetive (at best) and very subjective decision to ban the name without offering the customer any recourse to rename his char or recover his items/money/skills/etc.??? Any this community isnt outraged.... unbeliveable.
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Right, so by that logic Adolf Jewkilling Hatemonger is perfectly fine, as it has no vulgarity in it....
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54
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#49
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA.CT
Guild: PANiC AttAcK
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teklord
Bottom line: Grow up.
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I guess that's the problem, I am an adult and I am wrong expecting the community to think like adults.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56
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#50
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I cant believe you people. How can a non vulgar word be offensive, just becuase it has sexualt implications? It should only offensive if it is vulgar, ie. vulgar language. What about a name with the word murder in it (John the Murderer)? Murder is pretty much illegal anywhere and the deffenition is pretty cut and dry, yet the word murder itself is not a vulgar word nor would it be banned. I guess killing is one thing but sexual acts are another in mant simple minds.
But truthfully, the fact that they find the name offensive isnt really the point (although its ironical considering all the female chars in this game are dress and look like they belong on the street corner offering sodomy for $5.00 [not to mention how some dance]), the real issue is allowing a customer to use the name, allowinging him to invest a good chunk of time, then make a overly conservetive (at best) and very subjective decision to ban the name without offering the customer any recourse to rename his char or recover his items/money/skills/etc.??? Any this community isnt outraged.... unbeliveable.
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So, by your logic, a character name like C**k Ring or Biggest Dickius is not deemed remotely offensive as they're just words? I have a good one.... Aryian Soldier.
Names used throughout history, Bloody Mary, Vlad the Impaler while received from causing destruction are not anywhere near as offensive as God of Sodomy.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56
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#51
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I cant believe you people. How can a non vulgar word be offensive, just becuase it has sexualt implications?
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Hahaha, oh...man. I got a good laugh off of that one. Did you even read what you wrote out? Or do you just live in a place where everything is acceptable no matter what it's referring to? Many many many insults are simply sexual terms in themselves, they aren't swears but you can sure as hell bet that people find them highly offensive, I'd state a few examples here, but that might get ME banned.
For the last time, they didn't just ALLOW him to have the name, is it possible that they just never got word of it until now? Yeah, I'd say that it is.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#52
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: College Station, TX
Guild: Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!
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I wonder if Sadam Hussein is blocked.
Adolf Hitler?
Osama Bin Laden?
Jesus? God? Jesus God?
But yah the line has to be drawn somewhere and your friend was on the wrong side of said line.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#53
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: San Diego, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I guess that's the problem, I am an adult and I am wrong expecting the community to think like adults.
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That has nothing to do with it, and nor should it--there's probably a good number of kids/tweens/teens playing this game.
It's about respect for your fellow gamers.
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Jun 07, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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#54
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hotlanta
Guild: Pink Fluffy Bunniez
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I guess that's the problem, I am an adult and I am wrong expecting the community to think like adults.
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And in what way is the community failing to meet your expectation?
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#55
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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Ok, it was offensive to some and I don't really care what name he had. I have seen some names in game that I know are offensive, but I don't report them and sometimes they are very well thought out.
What concerns me is how many people actually complained about the name?
In my experience, you only have to have a few people complain, whine, moan about something trivial, i.e. I find that TV program offensive because that woman is showing her boobs, I want you to ban it. Err, don't bloody watch it then, if you don't like it.
It seems the minority of people are very controlling when it comes to the majority of others out there. I just think in some cases it shows that people don't have open minds or can't think for themselves.
His friend was opening himself up to being banned especially with the recent announcement that anything offensive could and will be banned if deemed necessary, but how much time and effort did this guy put into helping Anet/NCsoft in the BWE events in improving there game to help get there game out to the mass markets in a marketable form to have all these whiners come along and spoil it for hard core gamers, and those who want to just have fun, just because one person if offended by something so small.
Sticks and Stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
Personally, I find it funny in both ways. The name and because he got banned, but to not even get a warning, well, that just sucks of not very decent customer commitment.
With all the swearing that goes on in these forums, I'm surprised someone hasn't come along and asked most of us to be banned, because there is a lot of it, but I'm strong enough to not give a flying f&*k.
Just my 2 cents to the minority of whiners out there.
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#56
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keesa
And in what way is the community failing to meet your expectation?
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I guess because we use names lacking the vulgar doublemeanings and take them for what they are: offensive.
Only thing I see, is possibly my ranger getting banned.. Kokius Peylio. I say that, because the Koko in my ID has tripped language filters in the past for c**k.
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00
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#57
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA.CT
Guild: PANiC AttAcK
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon
Right, so by that logic Adolf Jewkilling Hatemonger is perfectly fine, as it has no vulgarity in it....
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No that would be offensive to most because it implies antisimitism (similar to racism, but since "jew" is not a race, racism would be incorrect term), far from my example. Antismitism and racism would be unexceptable anywhere, well almost anywhere. :P
Last edited by Nim; Jun 07, 2005 at 09:04 PM // 21:04..
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03
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#58
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA.CT
Guild: PANiC AttAcK
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkiess
Ok, it was offensive to some and I don't really care what name he had. I have seen some names in game that I know are offensive, but I don't report them and sometimes they are very well thought out.
What concerns me is how many people actually complained about the name?
In my experience, you only have to have a few people complain, whine, moan about something trivial, i.e. I find that TV program offensive because that woman is showing her boobs, I want you to ban it. Err, don't bloody watch it then, if you don't like it.
It seems the minority of people are very controlling when it comes to the majority of others out there. I just think in some cases it shows that people don't have open minds or can't think for themselves.
His friend was opening himself up to being banned especially with the recent announcement that anything offensive could and will be banned if deemed necessary, but how much time and effort did this guy put into helping Anet/NCsoft in the BWE events in improving there game to help get there game out to the mass markets in a marketable form to have all these whiners come along and spoil it for hard core gamers, and those who want to just have fun, just because one person if offended by something so small.
Sticks and Stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
Personally, I find it funny in both ways. The name and because he got banned, but to not even get a warning, well, that just sucks of not very decent customer commitment.
With all the swearing that goes on in these forums, I'm surprised someone hasn't come along and asked most of us to be banned, because there is a lot of it, but I'm strong enough to not give a flying f&*k.
Just my 2 cents to the minority of whiners out there.
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Thats the expectation I had for the community, adult thinking.
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04
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#59
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances
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...not really man.
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Jun 07, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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#60
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Guild: Digital Heroes
Profession: Mo/N
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The funny thing is that we are all ignoring the simple truth (that teklord already so cleverly pointed out)... when he picked that name, HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING!
No person makes a character named "God of Sodomy" without that inward snicker when he presses the "create" button. I would love to hear HIS justification behind the name. "Well, in ancient cultures... blah blah blah"... thats BULL. He made it to get a reaction out of people when they read it. And guess what- he got it.
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